When I told my friend Webb Chiles that Layne and I were planning to start our retirement in three years in a camper van, he said thoughtfully " I could live easily in something like that." He is the man who has sailed around the world in a boat almost the size of a conversion van so when he looked at the plans and said he could live like that I believed him. Our modest van will have amenity such as he will never have in Gannet, his world girdling Moore 24 which is three feet longer than our mere 21 foot Promaster van.
Webb gets it and when I see him in Chicago this weekend I am sure we will have a laugh together at how much amenity my Promaster 3500 will be lugging around the world for us compared to his tiny little boat. But for other people of my acquaintance the idea of cramming two lives into a small space has the air of deprivation that they could not stand. My wife and I have talked about it and she is totally enthusiastic, just as she was when we lived and traveled on a sailboat together twenty years ago. She's ready to go again. But we both agreed a van would work better this time as we want to see more of the land cultures and I don't want to worry about my dog as we travel. Taking a dog on a sailboat journey requires massive amounts of time and effort to exercise the poor creature on the land and give it the chance to stretch its legs and mind. A van require simply opening the door...to get "ashore." Much easier!
So when I published the picture above I started to get all sorts of messages referring to Van Life, the faddish lifestyle hashtag now populating social media. I have to say I am puzzled, especially as the tone of the articles is always negative, on the order of "You Don't Know What You Are Getting Into." Which I suppose could be fair enough if you didn't know my history but anyone who knows me knows I am used to traveling by the seat of my pants. I have motorcycled in many strange places around the world and after I got married my other preferred means of locomotion, a sailboat seemed the best compromise to seek adventure together.
Van life as conceived by social media is something completely different from the journey we have envisioned. As in this article, somewhat tongue in cheek from Overland Outbound:
"Go ahead and do a search for the #vanlife hashtag on Instagram. I’ll wait. There you will be regaled with photos of beautiful people in front of their beautiful converted vans. Waterfalls flowing in the background, their perfectly tanned bikini bodies glistening in an eternally-glowing golden-hour. The text below the photo contains some inspirational pontification about living your life to the fullest, while the sly smiles on their faces hint that they might just have found the fountain of youth and secret to eternal happiness."

Let me put it this way: if anything about the above paragraph puts you in mind of myself and my wife perhaps you are not where you think you ought to be on your Internet search. While I appreciate the awful warnings the firmly settled people are sending to me I am looking forward very much to returning to being a nomad. By my traveling standards the van we are having built for us by Custom Coach Creations in Deland, Florida is going to be a very comfortable home on wheels. It will be 6 feet wide and twelve feet long with ample headroom but there is nothing about it that speaks to me of deprivation. Not my build but we will be getting something like this next year:
There is the predictable backlash against what was a trending phenomenon and now the press is hounding the Van Life thing as undesirable. If you, young person think you can avoid your responsibilities to get into debt and settle down think again. Van Life Sucks. It requires you to manage your own life or as we see here in the case of one poorly prepared Van Lifer:
“We started to see people post things about safety, and that you need to have mace or a gun, and if you have a gun you can’t carry [it] across state lines,” she said. “That started to really spook me, especially traveling with a young girl, our little daughter.”
Even if an emergency situation were unlikely, it still “spooked” her, Lisa said.
Then she started thinking about the time of year. “I like to be comfortable,” she said. “If we’re going to stay in this van, how am I going to sleep when it’s June? I don’t care if we’re in Lancaster — no matter where you are, it’s hot.”
Suddenly, she found herself looking into the cost of campgrounds. With electricity and water hookups, some of them were almost as costly as hotels, creeping up to $50 or $60 a night, she said. Plus, they’d have to pay for gas to put into Van Halen along the way.
“When I added all those costs up, it was cheaper to fly,” Lisa said.

I guess I find myself taken aback by anyone who would imagine that I follow fashions or fads. I haven't yet and I don't propose to start now that I am 61. I guess the best I can tell you is that for a while, and I don't know how long that may be, my stories and photos will be from somewhere else unfettered by the need to be diplomatic or to protect my job status, and when we do return to Key West I see us choosing to live out our years on a boat. My dream would be to have a low cost simple (always simple!) retirement home afloat, a single engine trawler, with which we could cruise the Bahamas, go swimming and live on the margins of society with our world girdling van in the parking lot to use for trips on land. But the joy of my life is not knowing for sure what comes next. This was our Gemini catamaran anchored in Pebble Beach Cove California at the start of our two year trip to Key West, Florida, 6,000 miles away.
My wife and I have spent the past two decades conforming, working, saving our pensions and planning to retire self sufficient and with dignity, but neither of us has forgotten our youth, so travels with adventure and uncertainty beckon. It may be that we have to change our plans, that van life does suck even as envisioned by us but what we want to achieve, in any form, are a few mind altering experiences before our inevitable deaths. The point is as Webb Chiles has said more than once, for the artist to go to the edge of human experience and send back reports. You don't have to leave your armchair to go along for the ride. But for those of us that crave the journey, 20 years of being settled and sensible is enough. I'll write the reports, right here.
My wife and I have spent the past two decades conforming, working, saving our pensions and planning to retire self sufficient and with dignity, but neither of us has forgotten our youth, so travels with adventure and uncertainty beckon. It may be that we have to change our plans, that van life does suck even as envisioned by us but what we want to achieve, in any form, are a few mind altering experiences before our inevitable deaths. The point is as Webb Chiles has said more than once, for the artist to go to the edge of human experience and send back reports. You don't have to leave your armchair to go along for the ride. But for those of us that crave the journey, 20 years of being settled and sensible is enough. I'll write the reports, right here.
One friend of mine said to me that at least we have Rusty, as he will protect us from all the evildoers we will meet along the way. I rather expect to meet interesting kind and thoughtful people along the way. I'll leave the evildoers where they are now, in the streets and neighborhoods of the big cities where cruelty and alienation allow them to rule the roost. I have sunsets to see and hikes to hike in the back of beyond from my cramped unsanitary home on wheels.
For a taste of what I mean look at this article based on buying a large RV and trying to live in it as though it were a fixed in place home. None of this article makes much sense to me but I have lived on the road and I have lived in a home fixed in place so the disadvantages of both are readily apparent. Still for a one sided view check out this perspective from someone who has never lived on the road and is writing about financial issues not living life issues:
Yahoo Finance And RVs
For a taste of what I mean look at this article based on buying a large RV and trying to live in it as though it were a fixed in place home. None of this article makes much sense to me but I have lived on the road and I have lived in a home fixed in place so the disadvantages of both are readily apparent. Still for a one sided view check out this perspective from someone who has never lived on the road and is writing about financial issues not living life issues:
Yahoo Finance And RVs
17 comments:
There are folks living- LIVING, FULL TIME- in *unmodified* vans in the Silicon Valley (Mountain View, etc.) because they can't afford an apartment much less a house (rent is mega-$$$ these days). If they can do it and get ready for work the next day, should be a breeze for 2 ex-cruisers who only have to find groceries and gas the next day.
We both know how simple it can be when you don't have to get ready for work in the AM.
Btw... about 4 broken photomlinks in this post.
I read a blog from a couple on a catamaran currently in fiji. They are of the ilk of " influencers" that is so common these days. I find it interesting , and appalling, that they are monetizing everything about their adventures. Of course they made a fortune in the tech world first.
I guess it's like professional wrestling, you can believe the story if you don't look too deep.
I look forward to your future real life adventures .
My bride and I lived full time in our RV for 5 1/2 years after I retired from the military. We never, ever had any trouble with crime or bad people and we stayed a variety of places all over the country, from campgrounds to overnights at Walmarts or even rest areas. We never carried any weapons.
We found that many campgrounds offer discounts for longer stays and we took advantage of many volunteer opportunities working in National Parks where we got a free full hook up site in exchange for 20-25 hours of volunteer work, usually a month or two at a time before moving on. All the volunteer tasks were easy and we'd pick jobs suitable to our skills. We found that very rewarding.
We had to settle down and buy a home due to family issues, elderly relatives, etc. But we kept our MH and use it to escape on mini trips to refresh our lives (like visits to Key West). We traveled some 70k miles over those years and only scratched the surface of the amazing sights in this country.
Hope to see you one of these days on the road! :c)
I hope the photo links (to my own photos!) are fixed now.
And that is roughly what we are looking at doing with our van. As for settling down we have no compelling family reasons - neither children nor parents- but we have thought about coming back to Key West, which feels like home to us, and buying a boat to live on. It would be mobile, a power boat not a sailboat this time, and with the van we could combine life on the water in the Lower Keys and Bahamas with visits by road in the van. But that is for later. I have to get through three more years of dispatching first...
I take exception to your statement: "I'll leave the evildoers where they are now, in the streets and neighborhoods of the big cities where cruelty and alienation allow them to rule the roost." I grew up in a very small town, spent my career in New York City and now live part time in Key West and part time on the Connecticut shore. I have met many kind and thoughtful people in the big city and some abhorrent ones on the small towns. And vice versa. People are people and you will find all varieties wherever you go.
Irony isn’t your strong suit is it?
As I write I am in our trailer, on the return trip to the world of work after a week in a Corps of Engineers campground, camped right on the big water of a huge southern lake. We’re about a year from forgetting about the work world, but we’ve enjoyed 30 years of doing this part time. At this age, you know what it takes to make you happy, and oddly, it is often much less than it used to be. The big key, I think, is that you both are happy doing whatever it is you do. May you have many unexpected joys of travel. I look forward to you sharing it with us.
.....WE ARE DYED IN THE WOOL CAMPING FOLKS AND WETHER IT BE TENTS OR TRAILERS WE LOVE IT ALL UNTILL.........METH CAME ALONG. WE STOPPED CAMPING BECAUSE WE WERE FORECED TO HANG WITH THIS DANGEROUS ELEMENT (AS THEY REQUIRE LOTS OF OUTDOOR SPACE) WETHER IT BE TO "COOK DRUGS"IN ABANDONED STATE OWNED CAMPSITES WITH PIT BULLS MASHING THEIR TEETH (POOR RUSTY) OR TO SQUAT IN PLACES WE LOVE AS WELL.
THE GOOD THING IS THAT YOU CAN DRIVE AWAY FROM IT ALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR JUST CHOOSE TO KEEP ROLLING ALONG IN HOPES OF SAFETY AND FOLKS JUST LIKE YOU......I AM AFRAID THE WORLD HAS CHANGED---YES---BUT I AM AN "OLD MAN AND DONT KNOW NUTTIN'.
......I dunno, if you have to talk yourself into anything by asking other people: Nothing will convince you of a truth you do not want.
Photo links work now. Thanks, CS!
......and the cops don't need you and man,they expect the same.
The width of the van is six feet. I do not take delight in this observation but if I was your friend I would find a way to kindly suggest that you folks "try one on for size" in the guise of actually sleepinging in one before you buy?
I just think the van is too skinny for you folks-----you have mentioned that you are large folks just like me! Cabin fever abounds and beside, Rusty sez where am I to go for my nap!
Yup. That’s what they said when we got in a sailboat with two dogs
And set off for the Panama Canal. Now we’re older a van seems a lot
Easier to deal with. If we fail hopelessly you’ll see it here in glorious
Digital Technicolor.
This sounds like a fabulous adventure and I can't wait to read your dispatches from the edge!! Meanwhile I'll continue to follow your adventures with Rusty. Thanks for such an enjoyable blog!!
How about a new picture of Webb Chiles while you are in Chicago---that one is from the dust bowl era!
I don't see the option of failure in your future adventures. I look forward to following your journey, as I am still in my settled and sensible years saving toward that miraculous mirage that is retirement. If that journey takes you back to normal life, the travel was a chapter, not a failure.
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